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Volume 3, Number 42 3 November 1986 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ | | / \ | | /|oo \ | | - FidoNews - (_| /_) | | _`@/_ \ _ | | International | | \ \\ | | FidoNet Association | (*) | \ )) | | Newsletter ______ |__U__| / \// | | / FIDO \ _//|| _\ / | | (________) (_/(_|(____/ | | (jm) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International FidoNet Association, and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1. You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1/1. Copyright (C) 1986, by the International FidoNet Association. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact IFNA. The contents of the articles contained here are not our responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them. Everything here is subject to debate. Table of Contents 1. ARTICLES Winner of GAGS adventure game contest announced THE CHEAPEST PHONE BILL EVER! 2. COLUMNS The Nautical View: Bobsterm Pro 128 3. NOTICES The Interrupt Stack Fidonews Page 2 3 Nov 1986 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= Date: October 23, 1986 WINNER OF ADVENTURE GAME CONTEST ANNOUNCED ------------------------------------------ Douglas Asherman, of Oakland, California, has won the first Official GAGS Game Contest, sponsored by Mark J. Welch, author of the Generic Adventure Game System*. Asherman's game is called "Alice," and is patterned after the character invented by Lewis Carroll in the book "Alice in Wonderland." The contest, which began May 24 and ended September 30, 1986, offered a $100 prize to the author of the best text adventure game written using GAGS, which is an adventure-game development system MS-DOS computers. The winning game will also be included with each copy of GAGS distributed from October 1986 to October 1987. GAGS is distributed as Shareware, so users can copy it without charge, paying $15 for registration if they enjoy it. Asherman's game allows a player to play the role of Alice as she goes through the Looking-Glass, and to meet many of the same characters described in Carroll's book. Asherman also adds some humorous 20th-century perspective to the 19th- century character. The contest generated nationwide publicity and interest, Welch said. "The main purpose of the contest was to encourage people to share the games they'd written using GAGS," Welch said. "A lot of people had started games, spending quite a few hours on them, but stopped before they'd really finished them, or before they'd really made them playable." As one result of the contest publicity, Welch learned that several computer bulletin boards have made GAGS available for callers to play on-line. "I was surprised at first, since anyone can download GAGS and play it on any MS-DOS computer, even systems that aren't IBM-compatible," Welch said. "Then I realized that other computer owners can't use it. If you've got a Commodore or an Apple, the only way you can play GAGS right now is to call a bulletin board. I hope some of these BBSs will allow callers to play 'Alice' now, since it's much more enjoyable than the sample game I've been distributing with GAGS." Welch said he has not yet decided whether to sponsor a second game contest. Although GAGS currently works only on computers that use the MS-DOS operating system (including the IBM PC and Fidonews Page 3 3 Nov 1986 compatibles as well as non-compatibles), Welch hopes to release a version for the Apple Macintosh this winter. "I'm just waiting for Borland to release its Turbo Pascal compiler for the Macintosh," Welch said. Welch sells GAGS on disk for $10. Registration is $15 more. Registered users can also buy the complete GAGS source code for $25, Welch said, if they wish to add features to the program. * GAGS and Generic Adventure Game System are trademarks of Mark J. Welch. For more info, contact: Mark J. Welch P.O. Box 2409 San Francisco, CA 94126 Voice phone: 415-845-2430 [Berkeley] Fido 161/459 BIX: 'mwelch' THE FOLLOWING IS A SAMPLE OPENING SCRIPT OF THE WINNING GAME ------------------------------------------------------------ (Copyright 1986 by Douglas A. Asherman) C>ADVENT ALICE The Adventures of Alice Who Went Through the Looking-Glass And Came Back Though Not Much Changed Based on characters created by Lewis Carroll Game and Text Copyright 1986 D.A. Asherman Developed using: The Generic Adventure Game System (GAGS) Version 1.06b -- 6/15/86 Copyright 1985, 1986 by Mark J. Welch -- All Rights Reserved P.O.Box 2409, SF, CA 94126, (415) 845-2430 GAGS is distributed as "Shareware." Fidonews Page 4 3 Nov 1986 Initializing data, please wait (should take 1 minute)... You've woken up to a fine, fine morning. The sun shines, the birds sing, and you feel wonderful. Your cat, Dinah, greets you at your bedroom door. You see that her kittens follow her lovingly, and you feel that nothing could be finer than to be greeted by Dinah in the morning. There is, however, a spectre on the horizon. Today is the day for your mathematics lesson. Of course, you could plead illness, but that would ruin your opportunity to go out and enjoy the rest of the day. You get dressed and go downstairs, ruminating on how you could possibly skip your mathematics lesson and still be able to enjoy the rest of the day. "There must be some solution," you think, "some way to elude my tutor and go out to play." If you lived far in the future instead of in A.D. 1865, we would say that you suffered from a malady called "female math anxiety." But as you are only a little girl, and as you DO live in 1865, we can only say that you haven't studied. Ah, well . . . . perhaps there is some way to avoid your imminent academic embarrassment . . .perhaps. Perhaps it's somewhere in the house. You are standing on the west side of the fireplace in the drawing room of your house. The chairs here are made of nicely polished wood, and the mantle over the hearth is very well kept up. Everything, in fact, is exactly as it should be. The sun is shining, birds are singing, and you feel that today of all days, nothing could possibly go wrong. << Drawing Room >> There is a ball of yarn lying on the floor here What Now? EXAMINE YARN The ball of yarn seems to be incredibly tangled. In fact, it seems to have gotten tangled into the rug itself! << Drawing Room >> There is a ball of yarn lying on the floor here What Now? PULL YARN The yarn untangles easily....perhaps a bit too easily. You are standing in an alcove. To the south is the west side of the drawing room. Your father says that standing in this alcove puts you exactly north of the west side of the fireplace. You think you understand what he means, but have never really taken the time to ask. << Alcove >> Your nanny is standing here. Fidonews Page 5 3 Nov 1986 What Now? SOUTH << Drawing Room >> There is a ball of yarn lying on the floor here What Now? EAST You are standing on the east side of the fireplace in the drawing room of your house. The sun is shining in through all of the windows, even through the little stained-glass window in the southern door. Once again, you feel that everything is as it should be. You can't decide, however, whether to go out and play or to prepare for your Mathematics lessons. << Drawing Room >> There is a lovely Swiss clock on the mantelpiece What Now? EXAMINE CLOCK The clock, although obviously a fine piece of craftsmanship, seems to be telling the wrong time. << Drawing Room >> There is a lovely Swiss clock on the mantelpiece What Now? . . . . [portion omitted] . . . You are sitting down in front of the fireplace in the drawing room of your house. You feel as if you've fallen. "But" you think "that is ridiculous. One must have been up somewhere to have fallen down, and as I've not been up I can't possibly have fallen down." You think that this is good logic, but still make a mental note to ask you mathematics tutor, Mr. Dodgson, about it. Suddenly you notice that the southern door (the one with the lovely little stained-glass window in it) is open. << Drawing Room >> There is an old umbrella here What Now? OPEN UMBRELLA The umbrella is now open. << Drawing Room >> There is an old umbrella here There is a small dagger here. (In the umbrella) There is a small silver key here. (In the umbrella) Fidonews Page 6 3 Nov 1986 What Now? TAKE ALL The umbrella won't budge. You are now carrying the dagger. You are now carrying the key. << Drawing Room >> There is an old umbrella here What Now? SOUTH You are in the garden. The sunlight out here lends a radiance to all of the flowers and plants. Even the forest on both sides of the garden is..... "Wait," you think. "There never used to be a forest on the east and west sides of the garden. In fact I'm quite sure that the Finchley-Smythes lived to the east of us, and the Hatton-Carrolls to the west. Hmmm..." Stranger still is the fact that there is a wall to the south where you could've sworn there was a path down to the river. << Garden >> There is a musical instrument case here. There is an unclimbable wall at the south end of the garden What Now? . . . . . . ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonews Page 7 3 Nov 1986 Richard Epson 151/20 THE CHEAPEST PHONE BILL EVER! ----------------------- Tom Rapone & Associates, Inc. c/o Richard H. Epson 9920-A Plum Creek Lane Charlotte, NC 28210 >> Fido 151/20 << (704) - 542 - 3895 Hello there fellow SysOps and Users! I'll bet most of you spend well over $100.00 per month in long distance calls. If you are a SysOp like me, you send twice or even three times that much on long distance. Well, get this flash..... $100.00 per month gets you... U N L I M I T E D C A L L S U N L I M I T E D T I M E U N L I M I T E D A N Y W H E R E* (* in the United States) Watts lines have been used primarily by large corporations for cheaper rates on volume long distance calls. This is a program that takes average telephone users and combines their usage to obtain volume rates. WHY - The divestiture of ATT has given other companies the opportunity to compete with ATT for long distance phone service. Many companies have done so. The company that I am dealing with offers unrestricted, (in the United States, except Alaska), long distance phone service for $100.00 per month. Most of the other long distance companies are asking you to choose them or ATT. Our service is saying keep your present long distance carrier and also have this, now you have two long distance choices. For heavy long distance users (like we SysOps) this is inexpensive because we use state of the art equipment, access low cost lines, and maximize usage. This is a supplement, not an alternative. I am sure you are asking about long distance rates within your state. Well, presently our service offers INTRA-STATE long distance for the following states; Arizona Colorado Delaware Fidonews Page 8 3 Nov 1986 Dist. of Columbia Hawaii Idaho Michigan Montana New Hampshire North Dakota Oklahoma Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Virginia ....With many more on the way! While you wait for your state, you can still call anywhere outside your state (unlimited). ACCESS - Upon receipt of your application your personal access code will be issued. To access our service you only need dial an 800 number then your personal access code. It is very important that you keep your access code personal! BILLING Our service does not send bills. When you become a customer, you may (if you wish) sign up for the Check-O-matic plan. Your $100.00 monthly long distance phone bill will automatically be deducted from your account and you will not have to worry about forgetting the payment and losing the service. Check-O-matic deductions are made the 15th of each month. Otherwise payment may be made by the 24th of the preceeding month by mail. What a deal, huh? There is more..... Our service is a new company that will not spend money on advertising. They use the most effective and least expensive form of advertising. "WORD OF MOUTH" (OR COMPUTER TERMINAL!). For people who know friends or relatives who would be interested in their long distance phone rates, our service offers and incentive program that enables participants to profit from commissions. THERE IS NO COST FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE MARKETING PLAN. HOW - For each new customer who purchases our service, you will receive a $25.00 commission each month that customer participates. For example, if you sign up four people for our phone service, you would receive 4 x $25.00 ($100.00), per month, during their participation. You would still have to pay your own $100.00 bill for your long distance service but you would receive a seperate commission from us for $100.00. IN EFFECT, your long distance calls would be at NO COST. We have designed a marketing plan so that you can earn even MORE commissions. If the first four people you sell the service also sell the service to others, you receive a $5.00 commission for each additional participant each month they continue the Fidonews Page 9 3 Nov 1986 service. This $5.00 bonus plan pays down through 5 levels* *Where payment through more than a specified number of levels is prohibited by state law, payment will be made only to the levels permitted by such law. EXAMPLE - You sell Mike $25.00 Level 1 Mike sells Tom $ 5.00 2 Tom sells Ken $ 5.00 3 Ken sells Vick $ 5.00 4 Vick sells Bill $ 5.00 5 Bill sells Richard $ 5.00 6 You may offer this program to as many people as you choose. You are saying "What's the catch?" There isn't one!! And even if you don't sell it to anyone, $100.00 per month long distance is still the best deal around! If you are interested, send a check or money order for $4.95 made out to; *Tom Rapone & Associates, Inc c/o Richard H. Epson 9920-A Plum Creek Lane Charlotte, NC 28210 *Member of The Greater Charlotte, NC Chamber of Commerce The $4.95 is used for processing and there are no other costs except the $100.00 per month! ONE MORE THING!!! NO INSTALLATION FEE IF YOU APPLY WITH THIS OFFER!! AND THAT'S THE WHOLE DEAL!!! Fido 151/20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonews Page 10 3 Nov 1986 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Jerry Hindle 123/6 123/0 MemphisNet 2400 baud MAX 901-353-4563 Well, hello again from the sunny???? south. I have been busy this week collecting programs that were either send by fidomail, U.S. Postal Service, or even handed to me on disk. Most if not all of these are utilities for Fido and a scant few for SEADog. I am sorting thru them right now and attempting to see what they all do. I am presently testing the file FD (FrontDoor) written by Joaquim Homrighausen and Peter Stewart of 501/4609. These gentlemen have done something I have been trying to accomplish for a long time. They have managed to train the doggie to respond to command and wake up on cue. Although FD was written for the Hayes modems and EXACT clones it seems to work nicely on my U.S. Robotics and so far has done everything I have asked of it. There are a number of different things that you can set up in the program, chief among these is the ability to LOCK OUT or disregard carriers from any of the modem speeds (ie 300/1200/2400 1200/75). You can selectively lock out these speeds either one or two or three or (if you are REAL MEAN) ALL FOUR ! I have a small problem here in that most of my 300 bps callers are young kids still trying to play war games and they think I will allow them to just roam thru the system and do as they wish. Using FD I showed them that they still have a long way to go. FrontDoor has the following command line switches that will OVERRIDE the installed features: FD/1 or /2 Tells which com port to use /I install switch, used to set up defaults /? what else, HELP !!!!! /L log calls to a disk file by date,time,baud rate, etc. /N causes the program to NOT initialize the modem /K uses constant speed to modem (use if you have a BUFFER in the modem only) /Q silent run doesn't beep if connecting /Bn initialize the com port to baud rate (3=300 1=1200 2=2400) /Xn The GOODIE ! EXCLUDE this baud rate /Sn connect code for split speed operation (ie 1200/75) Hayes has no standard for this one yet. The program defaults to 8. The only problem I see with this program is that it must turn Fidonews Page 11 3 Nov 1986 control of the system over to Fido 10 minutes before a scheduled event and thus you must add an external event after every event in order to RESTART the RUNBBS.BAT. I am thinking that maybe SEADog does this also so this should not be too great a problem to most users. I run all my mailslots one right after the other so I just added 1 external event after the last mail slot to reboot the system and thus return control to FD. FD has a few bugs in it from what the authors say but I would say that for a first attempt they have done a good job and should keep up the work. They do request that any system that intends to use FD send them a FidoMail and there is a shareware request in the documentation. I fully intend to send the $ to them my only question is HOW much is $20 US in SWEDISH KRONA ! and as a note to those who try to call them.....be forewarned that the SWEDISH PEOPLE as far as I can tell speak English, but the phone system connected me to a FRENCH ARMY OFFICER on the first call and to someones home phone on the second call. I tried to contact the author voice at a number he gave me but due to the time differential and the fact that I was trying to call on a weekend didn't help, all I got was the place he worked (I think). Their phone system is a little weak in the data-line end of it. Anyway, that's it for this week, remember to keep those files coming (I still have about 30 MEG left to fill and to date I only have about 2.9 meg of Fido utilities and another 3 MEG of FidoNews. I also have a user here (MIKE GORDON) who is in the process of downloading the FidoNews files and converting them to Commodore Format ASCII and then ARCING them using a program for the Commodore called ARC134. We are making these files available as fast as Mike can work. He would like to mention that we can send these files to you on disk in either Commodore format along with the program to ARC and UN-ARC them or we can send them in IBM format (360k DSDD). If you would like us to send them to you all you need to do is send 5 disks in an envelope with a self-addresses disk mailer big enough to hold them and with enough postage on it to get them back to you. We will copy them over to disk for you and mail them out within 24-48 hrs of receipt. BY THE WAY......DID YOU NOTICE FNEWS340.ARC was MISSING a few PAGES.......SO DID I !!!!!! Jerry Hindle 123/6 123/0 MemphisNet 2400 baud MAX 901-353-4563 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonews Page 12 3 Nov 1986 Joe Lindstrom Fido 134/1 Calgary, AB +=================+ !The Nautical View! +=================+ Part 2: Review of Bobsterm Pro 128 What is your idea of the "ideal" terminal? Whatever it is, Bobsterm Pro 128 from Progressive Peripherals & Software will probably satisfy it. Simply stick the key in joystick port 2, put the Bobsterm disk in the drive, turn the computer on, and you will be welcomed into a brand new world of telecommunications. Folks, this terminal can do anything except wash the dishes! Since this program has SUCH an extensive array of capabilities, I am going to let the manual's table of contents be my guide. Because of the volume, I'll be sticking to "just the facts" as I go through, with comments later. Here we go: If you can connect your modem to the 128, Bobsterm will support it. If any of the built-in operating modes isn't compatible, you simply define your own mode. Modems supported are: Commodore 1650, 1660, 1670; Westridge, Master Modem; Total Telecommunications; Mitey-Mo; HES I & II; and Hayes Smartmodem + compatibles. Up and down loading can be accomplished in a variety of ways, including: Straight ASCII/PETSCII/Binary; seq line with prompt; XON/XOFF-DC1/DC2 Capture; Punter Protocol; Xmodem protocol with optional CRC plus ability to dump to CP/M disks; Entire disk (Track/Sector). All transfers can be from/to disk or buffer, and all may be viewed as they happen. Speaking of the buffer, here's some data on it: 60000 bytes; Fill from keyboard, disk, CP/M, or from byte#; dump to screen, printer, disk, CP/M; adjustable partial dumps, forward/reverse page viewing, adjustable page markers. Almost like a mini word processor. Why? Because: full screen cursor control; edit binary or text data; frwd/rev scroll with position readout; hex, dec, bin readout; set range; hex, dec, bin entry; add/remove linefeeds (useful in creating these articles); insert line; delete range; strip character; replace character; convert to upper or lower case; convert to ASCII or PETSCII (also useful); reformat text; zero parity bit; all with instant on-screen help. Most terminals provide a status line (usually at the top of the screen). So does Bobsterm. Features include: Always visible; carrier detect; buffer on/off; buffer bytes remaining; local echo on/off; incoming/outgoing linefeed on/off; hook status, macro active status (more on this later); null filter on/off; caps lock on/off; word wrap on/off; ascii/binary on/off; display control characters on/off; transfer display on/off; Fidonews Page 13 3 Nov 1986 timer/time of day clock (uses hardware clock built in). Regarding those macros: two types are available. One kind lets you customize "environments" for each board you call (including auto-dial of the number). The other lets you automate the logon, or even a whole session. Be kinda nice to set it to go at 5 am, logon to your local Fido, read all the new messages, upload a few of your own, dump the whole session to disk, and shut down, huh? Or, you can even use the circular dialing feature to "rotate" between logon macros. Here's where Bobsterm really shines: the user can adjust: char/screen/status colors; ALL RS-232 parameters; baud rate up to 2400; baud timing trim control (mentioned in my last article); default drive # for transfers and separate defaults for macros; default printer device and secondary address; ASCII/PETSCII printer output; printer auto/LF switch; 14 char printer control string; tone or pulse dialing; carrier detect switch; line delays up to 900 ms; char delays up to 90ms; char wait for echo; CRCK or CCITT checksum; XON/XOFF characters; XMODEM EOT, ACK, NAK, CAN, & EOF; XMODEM block start; XMODEM char start; XMODEM packet delay time; bell and answer-back; backspace, HTAB, CLR-SCRN; 6 char IN- filter; cursor type, 10 character fonts; save default parameters. Bobsterm also features a "remote mode", where you can leave the terminal unattended and people can logon and have full DOS access. Features include: Remote DOS and transfers; user defined password code; user defined welcome message; full control over transfer types. Macros also work here. Terminal emulation features include: programmable emulator; 37 emulator functions; presets for ADM-31; presets for VT-52 and VT- 100; user definable terminals. This last means you can create your own "standard" terminal. For the advanced user, there are built-in file conversions: PRG to SEQ; SEQ to PRG; ASCII IMG to PRG; PRG to ASCII IMG; strip source code comments; C128 to CP/M; CP/M to C128. These come in VERY handy! For those "into" IMAGE files, there are a host of features just for you: Actual/Two's complement sums; offset start address; byte count; separator byte; bytes per record; 1 or 2 byte sums; header length; prompt character; header character string. I don't know what half of these are about, but I'm sure various "techies" will. Here's what the manual says about macro files: unlimited storage of macros; auto-dial and logon for each #; saves all parameters with #; automate ANY commands that can be accomplished via keyboard. THIS is where you can fully automate a BBS logon. It's a bit complicated, but I've successfully used it. I even put in a trap in case the sysop of a local board (FSS BBS - 403-242-0749) jumped into chat mode. He did, and got a surprise: "This terminal is under machine control. Please release me from CHAT mode and my operator will talk with you later." I got a phone call 5 minutes later... boy, was HE upset! Fidonews Page 14 3 Nov 1986 I'll skip all the macro-specific stuff for now, since they're of no use to you unless you actually have Bobsterm, in which case you have the manual already. All (!) this leaves is the 8 programmable function key definitions, where you program your function keys to send a string when it is pressed. F8 has the added feature of being the "answer-back" string. If a board fires a CTRL-E at you, Bobsterm will automatically send the F8 definition. Now, any run of the mill terminal can have any or all of these features. It's the implementation which makes Bobsterm such a joy to use. Completely menu driven means even the greenest of novices can be online in minutes, while the seasoned veteran will be flying thru various control sections using just a couple keystrokes (ANY area can be accessed from the main menu with a maximum of three keypresses). The manual, while fairly simple in layout and design, is very well written and covers all bases. I have never used a terminal which has been more problem-free. I only have two complaints: it uses a non-standard way of selected choices. To change from 300 to 1200 baud, you must move the cursor onto the appropriate menu entry, then press the RETURN key to cycle the choices or SHIFT-RETURN to reverse cycle. Use RUN- STOP to implement the selection. A little odd, but you get used to it. Also, it would be nice if the 40 column screen was supported. Why 40 columns? Because a few of the local BBS's only run in 40, and thus half my screen is wasted. I used to use Pro-Term 64, which allowed either 40 or 80 (though the 80 columns was ATROCIOUS, being drawn on a 40 col hi-res screen). As you can see, I am fairly glowing in my praise of this program. It shows a lot of thought and attention to detail, and is quite the masterpiece. I strongly suggest you head down to your local Commodore dealer and give it a test run. It carries a steep price tag (I paid $130 in Canadian currency), but it is well worth it. I'm interested in answering any of your questions about either the 64 or 128. If you are having a problem, please address your mail to Joe Lindstrom via Calgary Fido (Net 134 Node 1), and I'll address it in an upcoming article. If you would like to contact me in person, I run a 300 baud BBS ("The Flight Deck") at 403-235-1659. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonews Page 15 3 Nov 1986 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= The Interrupt Stack 23 Nov 1986 Twenty-third anniversary of Doctor Who. 24 Aug 1989 Voyager 2 passes Neptune. If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonews Page 16 3 Nov 1986 __ The World's First / \ BBS Network /|oo \ * FidoNet * (_| /_) _`@/_ \ _ | | \ \\ | (*) | \ )) ______ |__U__| / \// / Fido \ _//|| _\ / (________) (_/(_|(____/ (jm) Charter Membership for the International FidoNet Association Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that pays an annual specified membership fee. IFNA serves the international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to increase worldwide communications.** Name _________________________________ Date ________ Address ______________________________ City & State _________________________ Country_______________________________ Phone (Voice) ________________________ Net/Node Number ______________________ Board Name____________________________ Phone (Data) _________________________ Baud Rate Supported___________________ Board Restrictions____________________ Special Interests_____________________ ______________________________________ ______________________________________ Is there some area where you would be willing to help out in FidoNet?_______ ______________________________________ ______________________________________ Send your membership form and a check or money order for $25 to: International FidoNet Association P. O. Box 41143 St Louis, Missouri, USA Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to insure the future of FidoNet. ** Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization in formation and BYLAWS are presently being prepared by an International Rules Committee. Membership requirements and fees are subject to approval of this Committee. An IFNA Echomail Conference has been established on FidoNet to assist the BYLAWS Committee. We welcome your input on this Conference. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonews Page 17 3 Nov 1986 SFFAN : Science Fiction and Fandom EchoMail conference. Discussion of Science Fiction Movies, Television, Book, Comics, and all other media. Doctor Who, Star Trek, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Zelazny, Moorcock, Asimov, Danger Mouse, Battlestar Galactica, etc. GAMING : Gaming EchoMail conference. Discussion of Computer games, Arcade games, Board Games, and Role Playing Games. Hook in now! Contact Mike J at 150/900. -----------------------------------------------------------------